China Machine Tool Expo Pt.1- Giant CNC Machines! 360ºVR

Nov 23, 2020 14:07 · 3874 words · 19 minute read robotic arm seat size audience

Hey, everyone! Right now we are at China Machine Expo in Dongguan. I am here with my teacher Mr. Zhu. He is teaching me CNC machining right now for my three axis CNC machine. There are hundreds, thousands of booths in this hall. This one is from Taiwan, from Zhejiang, from Yunnan, from Shanghai. I will speak Chinese in the video and then subtitle it in English later. I am using this 360 panoramic camera, it shows everything to my audience. Oh really? Yes. I can also make the video 2D. Let’s walk around and check out the machines. So this one it looks like it has X and Y axis. Hello, beautiful girl, what can I do for you? Hello, would you like to tell us a litttle about your product? I have two million followers on Youtube. Wow, two million followers. Yes, a lot are from the U.S. Then maybe I should introduce our product in English.

01:01 - That would be great! Is this a Taiwanese company? Yes, this brand is from Taiwan. Ok, this is Toco. This is our three axis with standard modules. These are all made out of aluminium. This is X, Y and Z. You can replace the pen with any other tools. So you can use it for engraving, cutting and something else. So this is the basic structure. Can it do something else? Other than writting on a paper? You can use it for laser cutting and even for embroidery, no problem. I see the poster behind you, a lot of linear rails. Yes, all for automation usage. I am involved in 3D printing, so we are in contact with a lot of linear rails suppliers also. Yes, this can be used in 3D printing too.

01:54 - But we have our own supplier, I don’t know if you ever deal with 3D printing business before. I’ve heard of 3D printing. What we do is mainly manufacture this kind of aluminum modules. I will take a copy of your brochure. Sure. But I forgot to grab a bag from the receptionist when I came in. And these are all our partners. Han’s Laser Technology Industry. I’ve heard of them. Does Mindray collborate with you also? I’ve heard of them. This is from Brazil, Italy and Germany. All the other partners are from China. Huawei? Yes, because all the products are made for automation. Okay, thank you.

02:31 - Should we go start from that side or go from here? This way. So there all a lot of tools. This is the tooling I use on my machine. I remember on their ads they show a couple of tool sections. This is from Dongguan. So this is a local equipment store. Oh my god, that fan is strong. This one is from Zhejiang, precision manufacturing. They have cutting fluid. I didn’t have it on mine so my drill bit broke yesterday. So this is for washing the parts. I think after you mill the parts and then you put it in there to clean it.

03:44 - It kind of looks like a jelwery cleaing machine, it spins and turns. A lot of linear rails companies here. We just saw the one from Taiwan and this is the local one. Let’s take a look at the milling machines. This one is local too but this one is so huge. Look at this one! Oh my god! I can’t believe it. Dude, I should put the camera inside. What’s the price quote for this unit? That one? Yes. That one is around $39,355 dollars.

04:28 - I thought with this size the machine would be a bit pricier than that. I thought it would be around $151,368 dollars. This one is not that expensive, we have bigger ones over there. This one is cheap, this one is around $30,000 dollars. But this big? Holly crap. They were made locally. And they use the Japanese control panel. They have the pendant just like mine. You know I have the three axis CNC machine. And this one is 180cm. This one is bigger and a little bit more expensive. But I can’t believe it. Oh my god, this tool changer is so huge. I can’t believe it, man. I thought the first one was like $150,000 dollars, but it was much cheaper than that. There are more machines over there. Let’s go. You see? This one is so long.

05:37 - That guy said he could speak English, let me tell your audience a bit more about that machine. Hello! How long is this machine? 2 x 1.3 meters. Ah, 2 x 1.3 meters. How much is this one? Would you like to take a seat? I can’t. I am filming for my fans. Oh, you are filming now? Yes, I have many followers will see this video on my social media platform. This machine I think it’s around $90,000 dollars. 0kay, $90,000 dollars. This one is the most expensive one. So huge.

It’s 2 meters long and this is half a million in rmb which is 06:16 - $90,000 dollars for this machine. This one is bigger than the last few ones. This one is much more expensive than the last one but this one is super long like 2 meters. The width is 1.3 meters. He said this machine is around $90,000 dollars. Sounds about right. Does the Jiangmen manufacturer have machines this big? The Jiangmen guy sells 5 axis CNC machine, kind of like the ones over there. These are all the milling heads. Tool holder and milling bits.

06:49 - Is this from Taiwan or locally made? Ah, I see. It’s from Dongguan, it’s local and kind of familiar. I think I have bought their tool hoder on Taobao before. Really? Yes, I have bought some tool holders from them on Taobao before. No wonder they look familiar to me. This is the kind of end mill you have at home. Yes. But the one you got is kind of blunt. You should get a better one like this one. I got the milling bit from Zhejiang, not from them. That one was cheap. They have complex machines over there. Is it free pen? I think so. This is a pen with the caliper shape. Hello, is this just a pen? Yes. This pen is kind of cute and creative. Yes. I think it is free, let’s grab one. Let me ask him. Okay, let me take one now. Hello, is this pen free gift? Can we take one? Sure, take some. Recycling machine? It uses thin plastic wrap to wrap the package, that one is nothing special. Let’s go over there and check out their machine. Okay. Let’s take a look. It’s not working. This one looks like the one I have. But this one probably has a tool changer. Mine doesn’t have one. This is the same company, manufactured in Dongguan.

08:30 - What do you do for a living? My job is to train people to use CNC machines. He trains people to use CNC machines and I help companies to improve their branding problems overseas. He is my teacher and I have one of these CNC machines in my studio. Yes, she can help promting these kind of machine abroad. That’s correct and I own one of the three-axis CNC machines. Not as big as the ones you sell here. I am still learning so my teacher is teaching me how to mill stuff and how to program stuff. I have a lot of followers but right now only one CNC company in Zhejiang is working with me. The machine I have is $10,000 dollars if they ship it overseas. Anyways, if you have customers who need to learn how to use your machine, you can contact me. This is 5 axis. This one, the bed is rotating. I am going to video it and post these clips to my social media platform.

09:20 - What social media platform are you talking about? For my Wechat moment and my Tiktok account. Shit, man. My teacher is old. In China, they use something like Vine, but here is Douyin, Tiktok. And they mostly post there. This machine looks like the same, this one is lathe. This one is a lathe, right? Yes, it’s a lathe I remember I saw these in your workshop last time when I visited you. Yes, we have these. But this one has an arm which our machine doesn’t have.

10:21 - How much is this kind of lathe again? Is it around $40,000 dollars. Around $40,000 dollars. Yes, I thought so. Complex machine. So this is CNC and lathe together. This one is probably a little more expensive. Made in Zhongshan. Zhongshan is also in Guangdong. Automation. A lot of automation. You see, I have never been to an Expo like this, I am so excited, I’ve never see so many machines. My teacher he went to all the Expo, so he is not excited at all but I am excited. All these pumps, so this is a pump store? Liquid pump Yeah Liquid, oil. Stable? What’s this? Straight connected spindle cutter cylinder.

11:23 - I think their translator is not up for it. This conveyor belt for closing the box? To seal the box? Yeah, to seal the box. Anyways, all automation. Maybe you’ ll see CNC, lathe, and automation conveyor belt. That automation line in PCB factory you see them use that too. These two belts, up and down, and then they seal the box from up and down. China needs a lot of this because unlike America we have a ton of (smaller) shipping companies. Like five times more than America In America, you have UPS, FedEx but in China we have tons of small delivery companies. (Correction, I’m told all this is not accurate) They deliver every day. Especially right now is November and we have 11.11 which is our famous promotion month. So it will be busy. Like a lot of people will need this, if you have to pack it by hand, maybe small packages. My teacher, oh my god this old man. I got a bunch of business cards. I was looking at this, do you know what this is? I know, robotic arm. Kind of like an robotic arm.

12:55 - I know they use it for packaging but what’s that? It is sucking up the package. Look, look! It’s not a suction cup, they have foam at the bottom. There’s air going through the tube to suck up the box. Maybe the foam is… All I know is using this for packaging is very convenient. Especially in China we have 11.11, the E-commerce promotion month. Let’s walk and take a look at other machines. Sure. I notice that a lot of Taiwanese companies make linear rails. Where should we head to now? I don’t know. What’s this? CNC grinding machine? What can it grind? I am not familiar with those. CNC grinding machine. It is made in Taizhou. Where’s Taizhou? Oh, Zhejiang. I suck at geography. This is made in Zhejiang I will take their brochure, I think I should get to know more about automation. Their control panel is very similar to the one I use.

14:27 - Very similar, so I think they do similar things. Hello, can you tell me what’s this machine for? It can grind anything as long as it has two sides. To grind it flat? More than that. What’s the difference between this and CNC milling machine? CNC milling machine uses a milling cutter and our grinding machine uses a grindstone. We mostly grind stuff that’s tough but cnc milling is subtractive manufacturing. Okay, I see. Our machine can make hard material super smooth. Grinding machine, no wonder it’s a grinder. It’s not a CNC (mill) Thanks for the explanation. My teacher is only interested in lathes and milling machines because that’s what he teaches. This one is also a complex machine, can do cnc milling or lathe job. This is CNC lathe. The aluminum chips are long pieces.

On my machine, after I cut the aluminum, the chips are tiny pieces. I think it’s easier to clean these long aluminium chips than cleaning small scraps. This is like what I always use in my DIY projects. What they mainly sell is solenoid valves. This CNC machine company is located in Foshan, it’s very close to the company who ask you to collaborate with. What did that Jiangmen company say? How do they want to collaborate with you? They don’t have a booth here. I think they will come to Shenzhen’s DMP expo. Made in Japan. Let’s take a look at these, Teacher Zhu. Rotary table that are made in Japan. This is what they use in the CNC machine.

16:30 - They only sell parts but not the whole machine. Yes. I see. So they don’t sell the whole machine they only sell the rotary table. I think it is cheaper if you buy parts first then assemble it. Tapping machine for big screws, much bigger than the one I use. Okay, this is like a tapping machine. So yeah, on there it says this is an electric tapping machine. But it’s big. Not a small tapping machine. And this one is huge too, I don’t know where is from. It looks like a combo. Combination machine. Turning and milling. This is from Guangzhou. On the machine there is a sticker says they can help you to design the lathe, the lathe enclosure for you. That’s not the information of the seller, it’s from the designer. Who put it on there? I think they are working together. Just like me and my teacher. He is all about networking and I am all about the machines.

17:51 - Look, look! Check this out They have the grinder tool. I think that’s for grinding the last layer of the aluminium. I have that but I don’t use it for now. This one looks like the one in your workshop, the sales people told us it is like $60,000 dollars for this. I am looking for my friend’s booth. You should meet him. What? I didn’t hear you. I have a friend who has booth here. So there is someone you know who is here also? Yes, he sells CNC machines also. He has his own booth in this hall. I was reading message in the Expo’s wechat group.

One of them are selling this kind of machine, plastic injection machine that worths $350,000 dollars. They have a ladder just like this one, you can climb up there. Many people in China make that kind of machine. Really? Wow Yes. All these machines are from Dongguan. This arm come from that way, I don’t know what’s that for, you see Look at the motion. It is moving steadily. So after they cut the aluminum, it can change commands, like moving this robotic arm. The robot arm waits in line for the process to finish. So it can automatically will pick and place the parts in the box? Yes, that’s correct. This is good. Where do they put the milling drill bits? Also inside the machine? Look, you can place the milling bits over there. This one is good. So after you mill your parts, they have a robot arm to do that. I wish I have that. But I am not running a factory so it doesn’t matter. I have to learn the basics first.

20:06 - And then the robot arm drops the round shape object in the box. But it is almost full now. The robot arm has to put the one back to where it was, no more space left. It is just a demo. I think that one is not cheap. But I think it needs a bigger station for holding the parts. That company make complex machines too. I think a lot of them can get subsidy from the governent. This is the one that we were looking at. I think the material they use on that block looks fancy. It’s kind of nice. I like the brown aluminium parts there.

20:44 - Look up there, the tool changer enclosure’s material is prettier than the one we looked at before. The tooling holder. Yeah. We are the first company that uses that kind of material. What are you saying? Sorry. We are the first company that made tool changer holder like that. Okay. We have patent on that part. What patent did you apply for? The big brown tool holder. This one is from Dongguan. Alright, so many of these are from Dongguan. So after you mill the parts, it can come out from here. I guess once you finish the job, that’s their exit. Same, it’s like all the others. But they are different manufacturers and in China if you are in this kind of business. I think it’s in the category of high tech industry. And once you manufacture this, you can get some government funding. Check that one out. This is also from Guangdong.

I did not know so many machines are made in Guangdong. Because most of the time when I collaborate with people, most of the companies that talk to me are from other provinces. Like the one I am using is from Zhejiang. This one is from Guangdong. It’s name is Li Hua Mei. See, this one is kind of like the one I showed you before. But this one is bigger. What I found out is they are maybe the same but they just make it bigger or smaller. Kind of like 3D printer. 3D printing business. This is the same just like the other one. That’s what I am telling you about, man. Old people they chat a lot, it’s like he is meeting some old friends or something. They don’t keep walking.

22:51 - Chip removal machine must be opened simultaneously, you mean? Is that simultaneously? Synchronized with the machine too. So once you turn it on, this must be turned on. This is the same company we were looking at because it has the same tool holder. Where’s my teacher? Oh, you are here. I was looking at that machine, it’s like the one we saw before but bigger. But not from the same company. I don’t think it’s like the one we saw before. This one is different. Oh, okay. Anyways, the motor is not so strong, the speed is only 3500rpm/min. Only 3500 rpm/min? Yeah. I think it is too week. What’s the one on my machine again? 10000 rpm/min. 18000 rpm/min. 18000 rpm/min? This one is only 3500 rpm/min. Maybe we should take a seat. We should find something to drink also. Check this one out. So huge. High precision CNC milling machine. Ze Feng company. Where’s your booth? This one looks like the one we were looking at, same, similar. 3A06 is your booth number? 3A what? This company I think it’s from Taiwan. Come and take a look, beautiful girl. Are you a company from Taiwan? We are local, from Dongguan. Ok, you can add me.

I think I have seen this machine from this company online. Of course, we are a well-known company. But Ze Feng is from Taiwan not Dongguan. Yes, it’s from Dongguan, Changan district. I have seen a video on Youtube that demo Ze Feng company’s 5 axis machine. Not this kind. I think you are confused. We are not the same company. But that Taiwan company makes high quality machine, I thought this one is from the same company. I wish I can have one of their machines. This machine is so huge. Is it around $200,000 dollars? I think it is around that price, am I correct? Around $200,000 - $280,000 dollars.

25:16 - $280,000 dollars? Wow Is this 5 axis? Yes. I thought so. 2 million in rmb. Some of the people only sell the rotary table. They only sell parts. I mean just like the other ones we saw, you can just buy parts and find the designers to design the enclosure for you anyway. It’s the same inside. And then wait, you see a lot of people apply for funding from the government, they just change the enclosure. I just thought of that and maybe like I can do that too. They are the same, they are all the same.

26:08 - But the price is probably different and a lot of the local made ones are cheaper. This one, I don’t know what this is. Hello! What’s this machine for? This is manually operated milling machine. But where is the enclosure? No need, you can use the machine just like this. I am talking about the one like that one, I have one at home. Ah, CNC milling machine. Yes. CNC milling machine with an enclosure. I am just window shopping. Come take a look at this one. Why does this one have a double spindle? The ones we saw only have one spindle, but this one has two.

26:44 - This is CNC Milling machine with two vertical spindles. Okay, can two-spindle work at the same time? What do you mean no? I said yes. This is nice. Double spindle. So this is two working together, so convenient. Their company is looking for more distributors. This one is from Hubei. What were you saying? I am going to flim a short clip. Oh, you are going to chat with that guy. I will just scan the QR code and add them.

27:16 - There is another one with double spindle here? Are they the same? Oh, they are from Hubei. Do you have a spare bag for us to put the brochure in? This one has two station, two tables. So this spindle can work on this table or that, but what’s that for? This is for medium-speed wire cut electrical discharge machining. To cut what? Metal or aluminium? Medium-speed wire cut Electrical Discharge Machining. Look, there is spark over there. What’s that? Why on earth there is spark coming out? Can you see it? Oh, I see.

28:10 - So dangerous, I can’t believe they don’t put an enclosure on. I am not going near that thing. Across this vendor, there is one from Jiangsu. They have made some effort. You see, usually, in Expos they don’t make this kind of effort. But this one does, this one has a robot. Wow This material is so soft. I thought it was real aluminium. I will scan the QR code on your chest. It’s cute. It must be a difficult job. You are doing a good job. What the hell is this? Can I take a picture with you? What? Sorry? Can I take a picture with you? Sure, of course. Stand beside me. We will take pictures for you. Stand still, beautiful girl. I think your company is the only company who put a little bit of effort to make the event more interesting. Hey, robot man, wave your hands. .